I saw Barbara again last year at a dinner meeting in New York sponsored by the Woodhull Institute for Ethical Leadership. Together with about 20 other women, Barbara lead a discussion about her work and her attitudes about current women's health issues. The HPV vaccine Gardasil had just come out and she had brought many concerns about its safety. Her general advice on new innovations for women: "wait 5 years" until we know if it's really safe.